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SteveHilton · King Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Location: Greenock

Within the SPL Hugh, if 2 or more clubs vote against a motion then the motion falls even if the others vote in favour that is not democratic.
JR: what are you going to do if you set up a new organisation and that organisation disagrees with you are you going to leave that one then?
I wouldhave very great concerns about leaving FIDE and nobody has suggested a viable alternative so far As Alex has said gut reactions are not always viable, a sentiment I agree with entirely
To win an argument you have to persuade others and talking of setting up rival organisations would not be helpful. You have to reach out to the rest of the world to get their support and help the less developed chess nations to develop, then you would get their support. You treat each affiliated nation in a world organisation equally then you can get their support

HughBrechin · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject:

The SPL provides an example of qualified majority voting (and a step away from direct democracy, yes), but it's still one-club one-vote: a vote from Rangers carries the same weight as one from Kilmarnock. It's very different from what some people, myself included, would quite like FIDE to move towards.

FIDE's current voting system simply is not democratic - Duncan's analogy, which I referred to in my last post, explains why:

SteveHilton · King Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Location: Greenock

Hugh,
The American College system is a joke and is totally undemocratic. That kind of system would alienate voters.
You simply cannot talk of breakaways without providing a structure for people to vote on.
When Kasparov did not get his way within the PCA, he walked out of that organisation. Democracy means we don't always get what we consider to be right, but I would rather have that than a dictatorship any day of the week.
You have to get out into the world and convince that world of your case. Things like helping less developed countries develop chess structures and getting them equipment, is a step in the right direction. You simply cannot turn up and say we are from Chess Scotland and say we want you to vote for us.
As I said before I have worked for the IBCA a world organisation which has 75 nations in its membership. I maintain contacts with all members of the IBCA and that is greatly appreciated by the membership

DGCongalton · Queen Joined: 07 Nov 2010 Posts: 113

What would be the implications of Chess Scotland leaving FIDE for Scottish Chess, those who take part in tournaments abroad and junior and adult participation in world, european and other international events?

What would be achieved by Chess Scotland leaving FIDE?