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MDuke · Rook Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 79

You'd be extremely fortunate to do any of those things for a weekend and spend as little as £25. Chess players are notorious for opposing any money actually going back into chess. Sure, they won't complain about travel expenses going up, the hotel costing more or the price of a couple pints of lager. But you're saying my 2 pints worth has to go back into chess? OUTRAGEOUS!

By the way, instead of having to punctuate your "jokes" with a smiley face, wouldn't it be easier just being funny? Embarassed

David Deary · Queen Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 98

I think you should do your research a bit more. I know on the wargames front it is cheaper you could be right about the darts or bowls. I'm still not so sure though... I think club fees are higher but tournament fees are lower.

Also I never said anything about being funny. There is a difference between being flippant and being funny. I also like how you are now putting words in my mouth some people should practice what they preach. Razz

Edit: I also like that I answered your points and yet you ignored mine and also Robin's. Oooh well it just goes to show that hypocrisy is still alive and well.
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MDuke · Rook Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 79

I Googled darts and bowls and I said you'd be very fortunate to pay that little - it might be possible, I don't know. It's certainly not average. I'm glad you weren't trying to be funny, I would have had to feel sympathy for you. Embarassed

I've replied to your points, if you have something you'd like to ask feel free. I'm afraid I did stop reading one of your posts halfway through so maybe I missed something important. Oh well.

robin moore · King Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 164

Let's cool it down a little here please.

MDuke, would you care to reply to my post earlier?

Thank you

Robin.

David Deary · Queen Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 98

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Yes I was a wee bit naughty starting this topic the way that I did. However I think it is worthy of debate.

David, My wife was a County Darts player and I have played for the county occasionally. We are friends with one of the top players in the BDO. I can tell you all about the darts scene. Chess is cheaper.

I was looking at the proposal on the back of Adams comments. IE what would we do if we lost our government funding.

Applying what they are doing to league chess would have horrific consequences here. I don't know how it compares to down there, but they are asking a team in a league with 4 boards £52 to play in the league. If there is 5 then, even with 4 boards, it rises to £65. We ask for £2.85 per team per board in the league. So taking the 4 board league, CS looks for £11.40 per team to grade the League, regardless of the number of players.

Putting it into that context, are we too cheap? I am not advocating using the ECF model of £13 per person, but most teams use reserves so a 4 board team will use 6 players over the season. That means we are charging each person £1.23, just over a tenth of the ECF!

Should we be charging more?

---- edit to correct ECF figures. Mental note, don't use mobile to read small text

Phil Thomas · King Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 758

Apologies for absence from the agm on the 27th

Hours of chess based entertainment there for no charge whatsoever. Should suit wandering chess players. Might even be coffee for sale for 0 p per cup

Instead I will be playing a FIDE rated event at Twyford in Berkshire. £21 for 6 games over 3 days.

And £21 also for Daniel to play together that must be almost as much as 800 miles worth of fuel.

At this stage I have no plans to play the August 2013 event. But If I play this year and possibly next I would be theoretically able to boycott the event in 2013.

Just a random thought .. if CS charge 10p per posting that would, I estimate, have raised £3,098 so far.

MDuke · Rook Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 79

AWIC · King Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 221

robin moore · King Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 164

MDuke,

Your comments possibly suggest to some north of the border that only the ECF know what they are doing and have the authority to do so. However, I am giving you the opportunity to clarify your comments to avoid confusion. I am not trying to start an argument but I am offering you an open opportunity to give a fair appraisal of any up/down sides of both present constitutions with regard to recent changes of fees for tournaments and membership of your national organisation.

David Deary · Queen Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 98

MDuke · Rook Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 79

AMcHarg · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:09 am Post subject:

AMcHarg · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:22 am Post subject:

It may be very unpopular but I would be willing to propose an increase in grading fees, especially if the CS's government grant is removed. We have to accumulate that extra money somehow, if it happens! Smile

The good thing about it is that it's proportional to the number of games you play, and I can't think of a fairer way of doing it than that.

The other thing I would propose is to give congresses a reduced rate for games played by members, although I'm not sure how easily that would be to implement with the current infrastructure. This would give the congresses something back for offering a reduced entry fee for members.

According to my calculations, doubling the grading fees would result in an extra £4000 of income per year.