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robin moore King
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: Congress support |
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Everyone,
Let's make this a season where we all try our best to support as many Scottish congresses as we can. For those that don't play many weekend events you would be astonished at the amount of planning, volunteering and massive unselfish efforts that are put in on our behalf to establish a wonderfully varied tournament circuit. I am assured there are more tourneys in the offing to go alongside our current excellent fair, not only resurrecting old favourites but also introducing new and interesting venues up and down the country. If you feel you can help in any way possible please do so because.... you know what? It feels good !
Robin. |
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admin Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Amen to that Robin! |
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Stuart Blyth King
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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You are right about the work and committment that must go into running a weekend congress - everyone doing that deserves the utmost respect and support.
I used to play more congresses than I do now - up to six a year. I've been playing less, lately, and last year I played only one! I was thinking why this was. On the whole, congresses are well run and I still get a 'buzz' from playing when I do. So it must be something else. As for most of us, money has been getting tighter, so maybe that's part of it. However, I think the main reason for me has simply been that I've increasingly found it harder to justifiy spending whole weekends away from family. It just seems such an awful lot of time that I could be doing other things. I guess it was a bit easier when my kids were in to chess as well.
Anyway, after writing this I don't know if it's at all relevant, but never mind and good luck to all the congresses this year!!! |
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Jacqui Thomas King
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Let's make this a season where we all try our best to support as many Scottish congresses as we can. For those that don't play many weekend events you would be astonished at the amount of planning, volunteering and massive unselfish efforts that are put in on our behalf to establish a wonderfully varied tournament circuit. I am assured there are more tourneys in the offing to go alongside our current excellent fair, not only resurrecting old favourites but also introducing new and interesting venues up and down the country. If you feel you can help in any way possible please do so because.... you know what? It feels good !
Robin.
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Where as your attendance is paramount it also eases the work load when individuals assist in setting up up clearing away. So if you turn up at an event & the boards & pieces need setting up please give a hand as the organisers will appreciate it. Even better if you are available is contact the organiser & offer your services so timings can be given for setting up.
At Glasgow Congress last year, I would not have been able to have pulled it off at the museum without the generous support of volunteers, who helped move & set up tables, chairs, boards & pieces. Due to my new work commitments I will not be organising any events this year but applaude those that are. |
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Stuart Blyth King
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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It should be a given that people help out with things like this. I think a good number of folk are quite helpful?
I'm not much help at the beginning of the day, though, as I invariably trail in after the clocks have been started |
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Stuart Blyth King
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I was wondering about playing rounds on Friday nights.
How much extra does this add to the cost of staging a congress? Maybe it's not much, because a three round on a Saturday congress would finish later on a Saturday (but maybe earlier on a Sunday)...........
Does a two day congress (3 rounds Sat/2 Sunday) have any effect on entry numbers? Does it save players/(arbiters?) much in accommodation costs (or does it mean making such an early start on a Saturday, that people coming a distance would stay overnight on Friday anyway? - or take byes)
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but just wondered if there was any infomation. |
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AMcHarg King
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 623 Location: Livingston, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Stuart Blyth wrote: | I was wondering about playing rounds on Friday nights.
How much extra does this add to the cost of staging a congress? Maybe it's not much, because a three round on a Saturday congress would finish later on a Saturday (but maybe earlier on a Sunday)...........
Does a two day congress (3 rounds Sat/2 Sunday) have any effect on entry numbers? Does it save players/(arbiters?) much in accommodation costs (or does it mean making such an early start on a Saturday, that people coming a distance would stay overnight on Friday anyway? - or take byes)
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but just wondered if there was any infomation. |
I think all the evidence suggests that either format is successful from a quantity of entrants perspective.
Financially it varies depending on the venue. For some venues the timings for a Friday night make it "out of hours", and therefore a premium rate is charged. |
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robin moore King
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Both formats have up and down sides. The fri-sat-sun format can be more expensive for organisers to hire venues/equipment. The sat-sun format can be cheaper but the downside is that many players do not wish to play 3 (probably) tough games in one day. For the player also, the sat-sun route may save them in accomodation costs. I personally prefer the fri-sat-sun option, often taking a bye on the friday if a fair distance away, travelling there early on the sat morning and staying in the travelodge on the sat night before travelling home on the sun night. With petrol prices as they are this is the route my friends and I usually take. |
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Stuart Blyth King
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I doubt there's a consensus; maybe economic necessities will build a consensus over the coming years!
I quite like three games on the Saturday, but it can be a bit tough going, especially the last one of the day!
I think I like the National League best of all: two decent (or not, as the case may be!), long games, and you only have to give up one day of the weekend. I think I maybe raised the possibility of holding a congress over two or three weekends, single day each weekend, which I like personally, but seem to recall it wasn't that popular an idea. I guess in a larger country, with greater population density (and no recession) it's possible to try out a range of formats at different congresses to see what suits, but maybe harder in Scotland? |
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Alan Jelfs Queen
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 81
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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I quite enjoyed the 5-games-in-a-day congress that Sam Collins organised a few years ago at the College Club, Glasgow Uni.
And back in the mid-90s, there was an all-night tournament at the Paisley YMCA. What is the correct etiquette for waking your opponent up, by the way?
PS. Is there going to be a Glasgow Congress this year? _________________ Chess Club - the first rule of Chess Club is you don't talk about Chess Club. |
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SteveHilton King
Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Location: Greenock
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I remember that event well Alan |
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Stuart Blyth King
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I did not play in the Sam Collins' all-dayer, but I remember people who had saying that it was something of an experience! |
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David Deary Queen
Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 98
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:08 am Post subject: All dayer... |
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I personally wouldn't play in a tournament with 5 rounds in one day unless it was an allegro.
I find it mentally draining playing two long games in the 1 day and as for 5 games in 1 day. Not for me!
On a slightly related point, I was discussing this with some people a few weeks back:
Given that the Scottish ran at a loss this year should we consider running the event over two weekends? Discuss
Personally I may be more inclined to play in it as two weekends as I wouldn't need to take days off work. _________________ Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional! |
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Stuart Blyth King
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Running it over two weekends seems a good idea to me.
I'd have thought it might encourage more people to enter and anyone who would've committed to a longer tournament would still be able to play in this. |
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admin Site Admin
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 1386
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Stuart Blyth wrote: | I did not play in the Sam Collins' all-dayer, but I remember people who had saying that it was something of an experience! |
I was one of the arbiters, I remember doing the last round draw with my eyes closed! |
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