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sigrun · King Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 307 Location: Europa

I like the new look especially since my 3rd best win is against Alan Tate Laughing

Hopefully stats will encourage more players to part with their money & become members.
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Alan Jelfs · Queen Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 81

The stats. on each player are fascinating ...

James MacRae's Top Win and Worst Loss are both against the same player!
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Pat McGovern · Bishop Joined: 10 Jan 2011 Posts: 24 Location: saltcoats

new layout is very good, once you get the hang of it. It is interesting how something like this brings out the self interest in peole, as if the site should be all things to all people. Be patient and allow development, stop bloody moaning. Razz

Paul Denham · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject:

Well done to all involved in new look website

The grading search is absolutely first class!!!

I am surprised to see how agreeable to draws I am!!

Basically the data that I generated manually before playing a league game where I was sure of the opponent is all there at my finger tips now with lots of additional data too for a stato like me. Manually I would browse seasons results to see if someone was having a good season or bad and scour the results of last couple of years to see how dangerous they were... did this 1350 player regularly hold 1700+ players and scalp those >1500 on numerous ocassions??? Had the 1200 player I expected to be up against ever won against a 1400 player etc etc.

The only stat I would add is the players overall % of points in a season and overall i.e if he has played 10 and won 5 drawn three and lost 2 his % should be 65%.

Great effort & well done again

Paul
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Stuart Blyth · King Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 209

I've been having a look round the revamped site.
What information on players is available to non members? The only info I can find is published grade and nothing else. Is that the case?

AMcHarg · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject:

AMcHarg · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject:

The server that we upgraded to is coping very well with the new site and the extra bandwidth usage!

This is pleasing news because it means that we can introduce more things without having to worry about whether the server can cope or not.

Other features that I will be adding within the next three weeks:

Player Quick Search - In many cases you don't need to search in great depth to find who you are looking for. This feature will appear below the navigation on each page and require only a Pnum or Surname where it will forward the user to the player's page or if more than one player is found it will list the players found. Because this will be seen on every page it makes the browsing experience much faster and leaves the more advanced search for those who require more in-depth filters.

Player Stats - Player names will be linked to the players.

Player Games - Dates will be added back in and 200up rule will be shown. Games per page will be increased from 20 to 60.

Grade Calculation - How each grade was calculated by the system will be shown again.

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Stuart Blyth · King Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 209

ok
I'll post a couple of replies to the issue of the new website.
Here, I'm really just going to have a moan - call it a subjective response.
I'll also try to put up a more 'objective' response later!

As someone who plays chess on a semi regular basis and contributes to the cost of grading through my club fees, league fees and tournament fees, it does not seem right to me that I can see nothing but my published grade - surely I should be able to see a bit more than this?

Paul Denham · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:53 am Post subject:

Stuart,

On the one hand I think you are right it does "seem" unfair to pay for something twice.

However, I think its more a case of paying an entry fee to each event ensures that the grading gets done.... no grading payments then no grade... all you have is the memories of a nice win against someone who seems strong and perhaps a bit of prize money.

On top of that paying a relatively modest fee to CS for a basic membership, is in my view worth it if CS can differentiate enough in terms of benefits provided between non members and members. I think the grading search is one effective way of doing that. It seems that the ca. £17 per skull per adult player would make a huge difference to what CS can do for the chess playing community and is a price worth paying... provided payers feel a tangible benefit for their money. Regular tournament players get this already... with the grading searches as a player who loves a game once a week but hasn't the time to devote to congresses, I now feel I am getting real benefit for my money..... interested to know how much of a minority I am in....

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Mike Scott · King Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Edinburgh

Just compared the number of results listed for me (all time) both as totals/%s (top leftish) and below pie charts: the latter do not appear to add up to the former?

By the way just noted my performance as black at allegro 26 wins from 36 games! Never going to play white again!

AMcHarg · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:44 am Post subject:

My personal view is that the grading fees paid by tournaments, leagues and clubs covers the process of getting the games graded and having a published grade. To access the 'live grade' shouldn't be part of that service. I think if a player is into their Chess to the extent that they care about their 'live grade' then they are probably better off financially by being a member anyway (RE: tournament discounts). £17/year is hardly an unreasonable figure for such a service. That's less than 5p per day!

So really the point I'm making is if you want to see your live grade then it's as simple as becoming a member. Cool

We will certainly be looking into the possibility of paying for membership on a monthly basis instead of the current mandatory yearly rates but nothing has been properly discussed there yet, from either a technical perspective or any other perspective. I'm pretty sure that the main basis for the current system is due to technical and time limitations but both can be eased/resolved by a technical improvement.

What Chess Scotland does with the money that it receives via grading and memberships etc is a totally different debate. It's fairly obvious though that with more money we will have more opportunities for better tournaments, something which every player will benefit from. I'd much rather see a Scottish Championship like we had a few years ago in the Edinburgh City Chambers on a frequent basis and it all comes down to cost.

If Chess Scotland doubled it's income from membership then that would be almost another £8000 towards Chess in Scotland every year.

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AMcHarg · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Error?