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GN
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JR wrote:
Well it's going to be a major shock if either Keti or Craig does not win it.

Green or Sreeves might be worth an outside bet, but odds of 3-1? I would say the odds of anyone other than Craig or Keti winning are more like 10-1.


Suddenly 3-1 doesn't look such a bad deal does it Wink

(Great game and fascinating ending from Keti and Clement today. Clement looking the real deal too which is great to see)
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AMcHarg
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GN wrote:
JR wrote:
Well it's going to be a major shock if either Keti or Craig does not win it.

Green or Sreeves might be worth an outside bet, but odds of 3-1? I would say the odds of anyone other than Craig or Keti winning are more like 10-1.


Suddenly 3-1 doesn't look such a bad deal does it Wink

(Great game and fascinating ending from Keti and Clement today. Clement looking the real deal too which is great to see)


Disagree on point 1, still think 3-1 looks a bad deal. There is only really a couple of guys who might, realistically, be able to pull it off, and are still by no means the favorites to do so. There have only been three rounds, there are many more surprises required and many more Kings to be slaughtered before your 3-1 looks a good deal.

Completely agree on point 2 though. Cool
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A Muir
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where are all the WOS players ? shettleston, hamilton, poly etc.
This is an east of scotland championships
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Alex McFarlane
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where are all the WOS players ?

If you look to the left of your posting you will see that it says you are in Dumbarton. Have a look around. If it is familiar then that is probably where you are.

But seriously isn't Clement from Helensburgh?
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A Muir
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clement plays for Edinburgh.
The odds of someone currently playing for a WOS club winning are over 100/1
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to be in it to win it....
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A Muir
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why all these quick draws ?
I was thinking of spectating on saturday but is it worth me bothering ?
should I watch the Open golf or the Bobby Fischer film instead ?
You don't win the championships by drawing games.
Alex, please bring in Sofia rules for the weekend spectators.
Also we want a champion, no shared titles please
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Alex McFarlane
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alex, please bring in Sofia rules for the weekend spectators.


Mr Muir, your wish is my command.

Sofia rules introduced for the weekend spectators.

Rule: All spectators must watch a minimum of 30 moves before being allowed to leave the building.

There you are Andy. Don't say we don't respond to requests.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 draw with 4 games left to play. That is more wins than than the last umpteen world championships....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
1 draw with 4 games left to play. That is more wins than than the last umpteen world championships....


Just logged in to see how our upcoming players were geting on as they battle to lead the struggle to become Scottish champion this year. So, errmm, I have to say I am a little dissappointed to find there is no game on top board today.

Sofia rules needed?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George, I'd love to find something witty and smart as a come back. I am struggling to think of something...
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AMcHarg
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GN wrote:
admin wrote:
1 draw with 4 games left to play. That is more wins than than the last umpteen world championships....


Just logged in to see how our upcoming players were geting on as they battle to lead the struggle to become Scottish champion this year. So, errmm, I have to say I am a little dissappointed to find there is no game on top board today.

Sofia rules needed?


I was also disapointed, where's the fighting spirit in that? Especially after both have been doing so well! Come on guys, at least wait until you're out of the opening before agreeing a draw! Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you can criticise them, a draw suits both in the current tournament situation, especially Sreeves.

All this talk of Sofia rules is nonsense, these are not professional chess players, they are not here to enterain anyone and are paying £75 to enter the event, if they wish to agree to a draw then I see no problem with it.

Sofia rules would make no difference anyway, I can think of any number of opening repetition draws to get around it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JR wrote:
I don't think you can criticise them, a draw suits both in the current tournament situation, especially Sreeves.

All this talk of Sofia rules is nonsense, these are not professional chess players, they are not here to enterain anyone and are paying £75 to enter the event, if they wish to agree to a draw then I see no problem with it.

Sofia rules would make no difference anyway, I can think of any number of opening repetition draws to get around it.


A draw doesn't suit them as much as a win. It's probable that if either of them are to become Scottish Champion then they will need more wins, not draws.

I think the criticism is understandable and fair, although I don't agree that Sofia rules should be introduced. I just wish the players would actually play with some more fighting spirit, especially considering that they spent £75 to enter. What's the point in spending that if you aren't going to actually play all the rounds? Both of them are perfectly capable of beating each other if they play well, so why not try?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A draw takes Sreeves to 5 points and a guaranteed share of the lead going in to the next round. If Green plays for the win with black and loses it practically puts him out of contention for the title.

A draw was always going to be the result here, infact I knew when I logged on to look at the games at 3pm that the game would already have been drawn. Scottish Juniors have a long history of drawing with each other, I know I was also guilty back in the day Razz


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