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Looked like a good tournament. A good first prize definitely helps, other organisers should take note!
Congrats to Mr. Bozinakis on a deserved victory! |
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| Quote: | Looked like a good tournament. A good first prize definitely helps, other organisers should take note!
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I don't totally disagree with this. The two largest weekenders in Britain are Blackpool and Scarborough which both offer significant prize funds to all events. However, in both cases it is not just that but also the fact that you can take your family with you that helps push up the entry.
It would be interesting to see if Edinburgh or Glasgow could copy either of these models. |
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| Alex McFarlane wrote: | | Quote: | Looked like a good tournament. A good first prize definitely helps, other organisers should take note!
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I don't totally disagree with this. The two largest weekenders in Britain are Blackpool and Scarborough which both offer significant prize funds to all events. However, in both cases it is not just that but also the fact that you can take your family with you that helps push up the entry.
It would be interesting to see if Edinburgh or Glasgow could copy either of these models. |
The trouble is that if it doesn't work then you lose tons of money. Whilst it may be a reason that Blackpool and Scarborough do so well I doubt it's the only reason. Those tournaments are widely regarded as being in what are already fairly popular tourist areas in the UK so, as you pointed out, it can be justifiably made into a short family holiday at the same time.
It may be that the higher prize money originated as a result of the higher attendance rather than being the cause of the higher attendance. The only way to really know would be to survey people at Scarborough and Blackpool to find out their main motivations for playing and if they might still play if the prize money was lower.
Also worth noting is that England has a much larger population than Scotland so to get a much larger attendance than Edinburgh or Glasgow already get we would require people from England to travel, which adds to their costs and ultimately reduces the motivation. |
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I'm just speaking from the point of view as a player, and know that various other players are of the same opinion. That said, it would have to work form a business point of view. It would be interesting to see those Glenrothes figures from Andy Burnett, as Glenrothes made a large jump this year in prize money.
Regarding these events in England, I find it hard to believe that Blackpool is a good place to take the family in March. The attractions are closed and the weather isn't great (it snowed heavily last time I was there). |
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I'd just like to wholeheartedly endorse Alan's comments about Blackpool in March.
EDIT: And his ones about prize money for that matter, less relevant though such considerations may typically be to me. |
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I dont disagree with what Alan is saying as a big prize fund is enticing but from an organisers point of view unless there is sponsorship in place it is too risky to offer high prize funds.
Also some congresses have capacity limits which in turn will limit the top prizes. Examples of this are The Glasgow Congress where we were limited in the museum & the West of Scotland is also limited capacity.
So was it the prize fund in the Edinburgh Premier that attracted so many players or was it because it was FIDE rated?
It must have helped being the first weekend holiday in many schools & thus attracting families to attend. None the less an impressive attendance & great atmosphere. |
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| Jacqui Thomas wrote: | | ...So was it the prize fund in the Edinburgh Premier that attracted so many players or was it because it was FIDE rated? |
It was the money. FIDE rating weekenders actually stops a number of strong players playing. |
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| Quote: | | It would be interesting to see those Glenrothes figures from Andy Burnett, as Glenrothes made a large jump this year in prize money. |
Glenrothes 2011 Glenrothes 2009
Open (36 players) Open (33 players)
Major (35 players) Major (30 players)
Minor (27 players) Minor (38 players)
I couldn't find last year's figures. It should also be noted that in 2009 there were a total of 23 kids playing in 2 schools sections.
It's quite clear that the very significant increase in prize money Alan mentions failed to attract the hoped-for extra numbers to Glenrothes this year - very disappointing from the organisers' point of view. The prize fund will likely be reduced to the old levels for next year, although I should point out I am not involved in any of these decisions.
I always try to play Edinburgh because I really like the venue, and it's FIDE rated. It tends to have a strong turn-out at the top end so the good prize-money is not the main attraction for players at my level (I would imagine).
I played Blackpool once and wasn't overly impressed - a windswept, rainy off-season resort town with little charm. The chess/venue/etc was fine though (well, except for dodgy grading conversions!) |
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