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A Muir King
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 489 Location: Dumbarton
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:18 am Post subject: Scottish Boys Championship |
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This has not taken place since 1992.
Why can't it be restarted by the junior chess organisation? Options are
(a) alongside Scottish (b) weekend swiss (c) year long knockout |
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Geoff Chandler The King of Posters
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 756 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Agree Andy
I Looked at some of the names from these events, it was like
trip down memory lane.
But let's get 1975 sorted out.
1975 A.J. Muir Andrew
Muir wins with 6/7 in a Swiss event with 18 entrants. He was followed by
G. Moultrie 5½; W. Buchanan, I.D. Crorie and C.J. Morrison 4½;
I.L. Lamont and I. Matthew 4; A. Coffey, C.A. McNab, K.M. Ponting and
A.D. Conkie 3½, and seven others.
SCA Bulletin Nr. 39 reports in detail on the event, which had some
interesting moments: Muir received a free point when Crorie overslept;
Moultrie had three successive whites, and then faced Muir with the black
pieces, losing a crucial game, and Kilgour and Scholes were expelled
from the event after 6 rounds for playing 5 minute chess with the
congress clocks.
Now that was a bit harsh. Who did that two these two wee lads?
It slso sounds as if the draw was screwed up.
(Alex Mac. this has signs of your dark hand on it - was it you?)
I think the class of 1975 should be re-united and the whole
event played again.
(I'll buy Ian Crorie, he's now a Bridge corres at some newspaper, an
alarm clock.) |
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GN King
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 415
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Geoff Chandler wrote: | Agree Andy
I Looked at some of the names from these events, it was like
trip down memory lane.
But let's get 1975 sorted out.
1975 A.J. Muir Andrew
Muir wins with 6/7 in a Swiss event with 18 entrants. He was followed by
G. Moultrie 5½; W. Buchanan, I.D. Crorie and C.J. Morrison 4½;
I.L. Lamont and I. Matthew 4; A. Coffey, C.A. McNab, K.M. Ponting and
A.D. Conkie 3½, and seven others.
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Is A Coffey any relation to P Coffey?
Geoff Chandler wrote: | SCA Bulletin Nr. 39 reports in detail on the event, which had some
interesting moments: Muir received a free point when Crorie overslept;
Moultrie had three successive whites, and then faced Muir with the black
pieces, losing a crucial game, and Kilgour and Scholes were expelled
from the event after 6 rounds for playing 5 minute chess with the
congress clocks.
Now that was a bit harsh. Who did that two these two wee lads?
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I believe one is at Man U and the other is farming sheep in the borders
I also think event should be reinstated. We have generations of Scottish juniors where we have never been able to establish who is the best - no wonder they all just agree short draws amongst themselves every time they play. |
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Geoff Chandler The King of Posters
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 756 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hi George - Lothian Champion 2010 - Well done. Good games.
"no wonder they all just agree short draws amongst themselves
every time they play."
Fritz is playing Fritz, what else do you expect?
The collective are all equal, no individual will ever better than another.
Give it a couple of years and everyone will have exactley the same grade.
They have stuck an opening into a computer and it has said the postion
is level, and as all the Borg Kids are using the same computer.....
...they dare not argue with the Mother Borg.
(been waiting for years to slip that Motherboard pun in). |
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William Hulme Queen
Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 84
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Lothian Champion 2010 - Well done. Good games |
Geoff - will there be a PGN file for download of these games please? Seen some on Corner but are there more available? |
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Geoff Chandler The King of Posters
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 756 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Oops, I've forgot to pass them on.
I'll do it when I home.
Not all that many about, 20 one score sheet was terrible.
(Green v Tate if I recall - one was recording in a thick felt pen the other
was recalling a game he played at another time, another place and on another planet?)
When I'm in charge I will deduct grading points for sloppy writing
and award seats on the Olympiad plane to those can wrtie a nice
neat score sheet. |
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Stuart Blyth King
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 209
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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told you - bloomin' computers - never used to happen in the old days when people had to write on slates. |
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Geoff Chandler The King of Posters
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 756 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Games sent to Alan McGowan (unit 6 of 9) |
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A Muir King
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 489 Location: Dumbarton
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding the 1975 championships, they were played in a big hall with all the clocks for the other tournaments present waiting for the round.
To pass the time players played 5-minute chess before the games started. Certain players got caught.
In my crucial game with George Moultrie, I was glad when he blitzed out the whole game in about 5-10 minutes as he liked to do. I spent a whole hour. This gave George a large psychological advantage over his opponents when he did this. However his 12th or 13th move simply hung a pawn in a closed Ruy Lopez.
I didn't do so well in earlier boys champs. I knew nothing about the Alekhine which Ed Perry played or Modern which Simon Gillam played and was well down the field in those years.
If someone can find the trophy, let's rerun the tournament.
Names entered in October, knockout during season.
The Boys Champs nowadays has been retitled the Jonathan Rowson award ie winner gets award without playing |
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Geoff Chandler The King of Posters
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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With you 100% on the one Andy.
S.Willets won it last, so he has to replaced it.
Possible weekender at the Edinburgh Club is another way.
What were/are age limits that classed someone as a boy.
Also do a girl's one as well, why not.
Now then: Back to 1975.
You saw a cunning way to get rid of two of your most dangerous opponents.
So you asked them to prove who was the best 5 minute chess player.
And when they started playing you told the conroller.
Brilliant. |
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Donald Wilson Queen
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 143
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, the Scottish Boys Championship has been contested quite a number of times since 1992, though probably not every year.
For a time it was run as a weekend event in May/June (i.e. separate from the Scottish congress), and in recent years the title has been awarded to the highest-placed eligible boy in the Scottish Championship or Scottish Open - in 2008, for example, it was won jointly by Andrew Green and Connor Woods.
Information on the years from 1993 on does seem hard to find (maybe Alex McFarlane has it all archived somewhere) but I recall that Andrew Walkingshaw and Graeme Plato each won the Scottish Boys Championship at some time in the mid-to-late 1990s. |
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JR King
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 447 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes I can remember playing in it on a number of occasions in the late 1990's and early 2000's, although I can't remember which years I won it. Remember winning jointly with David Sime one year.
I can rememeber Andrew Walkingshaw winning as well.
Would be interesting to see the details of who won each year if anyone knows!
edit : Looking through the old grading data now,
1998 : Walkingshaw
1999: Eynon/Sime
2000: Redpath/Sime
2001: Can't find
2002: Redpath/Macdonald/Green
2003: Thomson
2004: Macdonald
2005: ?
2006: ?
2007: ?
2008: ?
2009: ? |
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Duncan Grassie Rook
Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 64
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
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2001: Redpath/Grassie |
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William Hulme Queen
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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2006 and 2007 (I think) was ALEX IAN NISBET
2008 was ANDREW GREEN and CONNOR WOODS |
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JR King
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 447 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Duncan Grassie wrote: | 2001: Redpath/Grassie |
Thats right
Wonder why the grading data from that year has vanished. |
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