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Andy McCulloch
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rocksy, think about what happened. Your post brought the thread back to the top of the board.

Anyone opening the thread is likely to re-read at least the last page to remind themselves what it was about, and to determine the relevance of your post. As a result they will be replying to the thread rather than your post exclusively.

The world does not revolve around you, and your paranoia that everyone on the board is attacking you is unfounded. Your aggressive responses to totally harmless posts are unbecoming.
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Rocksy123
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy, I would think that should he have been replying to someone else's post, he would have specified (as it wasn't the last). In the context of the posts you can see that it probably was my post which he was answering. Also, I don't see how my posts to Jim Johnston can be described as "aggressive"? A bit of a strong word I feel. Surely "the world does not revolve around you" is far more confrontational than "how charming Cool". As this is going nowhere, this will be the last I post until the thread gets back to normal (i.e - with someone answering my query, the reason i posted in the first place).
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Craig Postlethwaite
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel,

Can I suggest the following

1. Count to 10 before your post. Some people post just to wind others up. Don't feed the trolls.
2. Rather than be quite nippy about not getting a list that no one committed to providing, you could offer to maintain the list for the web site. You'd just need to be sent regular updates on new entrants. Right now this will take you virtually no time as most Chess Players never enter anything until the last minute. It solves your problem about not knowing whose entered and helps Alex.
3. Apologise to Jim - he didn't deserve the tirade.

If all else fails can I suggest attending the next CS council meeting and propose the creation of Joint Working Parties to discuss the provision of entry lists to tournaments and inappropriate use of smileys. Oops - the last sentence was written by my troll alter ego and I take it all back so I can post it under one of my anonymous accounts. Twisted Evil Cool Wink
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Kingfischer
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel, Daniel, Daniel.. what can I say?! Embarassed

The reason the post was signed Anon is to avoid everybody knowing that I have entered and thus being able to learn my full opening repertoire in an afternoon.

Please post again Jim as you were of course correct with everything that you said. The jibe was aimed at a good friend and clubmate Mr Tate who needs to know the strength of his fellow competitors prior to entering the Scottish Championship?!

My point was simply that irrespective of who has entered get your entry in as it's gonna be a top tourney!

(Anon)
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Peon
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Thank you all Reply with quote

Can I sincerely thank those of you who have posted on this thread today.
Though running the risk that some might think it was all serious, you have pretended to take things too seriously, blow things out of proportion, get hold of the wrong end of the stick, ad nauseum - all to make my point - thanks.
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Alan Tate
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingfischer, Ok i'm not as confused as i was a minute ago.
An entry list is absolutely standard for an international event-it helps potential entrants know what sort of quality of games they will get. It also encourages players to enter when they see their name up there.
Not that i need to explain myself, but as playing in a 9 round tourney can cost between £400-£600, one has to be picky(my entry is not in the post yet but it will be).
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Kingfischer
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair comment. My apartment comes in at £300+ with entry fee and other expenses it hard to justify it to myself let alone my partner.

I do justify it to myself tho' with the knowledge that the top Scot becomes champion and I have (however small) a shot at that.

How many people in life even get a chance to participate for a national crown in any given event? (If Daniel is reading, this is a rhetorical question - That means it doesn't require an answer. Don't want you sitting up all night)

Depending on the pursuit a lot more cash may have to be forked out to even get close.

Anyhow, good to hear you are entering. I'm off to study opening's - you still playin that Centre Counter nonsense?

(Anon)
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JR
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that if we are all waiting to see who has entered before entering ourselves then nobody will end up entering!

It will be interesting to see how the idea of an open works, I'm not convinced it's the best way to settle the title of Scottish Champion, but hopefully it will increase entries, which has to be the number one priority.
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Alan Tate
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I refuse to divulge my opening repertoire to somebody who is anonymous.
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Kingfischer
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the board anonymously for 6+ yrs and nobody said a word.

My first ever post yesterday and suddenly it's an issue?

JR I couldn't agree more, imagine trying to organise a tourney and everyone is waiting for a list of entrants prior to entering.

Fortunately not all chess players worry about such trivialities.

Ok I'm off to win the East of Scotland trophy - anybody know who has entered?

(Anon)
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Alan Tate
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is waiting to see who has entered? Perhaps some players have to take the huge risk of entering before the masses.... The prize fund alone should get quite a few strong players, and for those not realistically in with a shout of a prize, they will be sure to face some strong opposition.
I don't see a problem...
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A Muir
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK , let's face it, Morozevich and Kramnik are not going to play.
In the light of no positive information, could the champs end up worse than last year ?
The £2000 1st prize is not guaranteed and could end up being reduced to £300 or £500 if entries are small.
There may be no title norms available.
Last year, for all players, all 9 games were competitive since gradings ranged from 1900-2450.
This year, in an open swiss, the gradings could range from 1200-2300.
Players might only play 5 or 6 competitive games, with the remaining being mismatches in the swiss elevator.
Meanwhile my work says they are very busy and I would lose a week's salary if I play. Another firm wants me to join them in July on a better contract. I am definitely having second thoughts and it could be a case of deciding 3 days before the kick-off like whether to play,like last year
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Donald Wilson
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Mismatches Reply with quote

There shouldn't be too many mismatches in the Scottish, as accelerated pairings will be used. This means that in the first round, instead of the top half being paired against the bottom half, the top quarter will be paired against the second quarter, and the third quarter against the bottom quarter. In round 2, top-half winners will play other top-half winners, but bottom-half winners will be paired against top-half non-winners. What happens in subsequent rounds depends on whether there are still any bottom-half players on 100%, but the net effect should be that the top players have far less contact with the bottom half than in a normal Swiss, so games should be more competitive and more meaningful.
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