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SteveHilton · King Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Location: Greenock

Andrew,
With respect, the definition of a sport given is not one I agree with. That is saying that the mind is not a part of the body. It is in fact the most important part because without the mind, how would the rest of the of the body function.
The mind tires as do other parts of the body do. Therefore chess can be classified as a sport because it does in my view meet the dictionary definition of a sport

johnmcbride · Queen Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 94

Steve,

As I just said, I expected you telling people to stop talking would kill the thread.

Obviously you are used to talking down to people.

AMcHarg · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:04 am Post subject:

SteveHilton · King Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Location: Greenock

Andrew,
Field sports would not be able to take place without the mind

Stuart Blyth · King Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 209

Gosh, doesn't time fly - Sport again - yippee! Laughing

Can I just say that I have had my Damascus moment, I have seen the light, I now realise that Stephen and his cronies were right all along.

As I was walking to the CISWO last week to the chess club, I was blinded by a flash of light. And behold there was a vision. I saw Colin MacNab doing press-ups, beside him, running on the spot, I beheld Paul Motwani; Bobby Fisher was in the rowing machine, with Spassky on the skipping ropes. The fact that all were wearing black and white chequered shell suits only added to this sportfest.

Come over from the dark side, all you doubters.

SteveHilton · King Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 443 Location: Greenock

John,
It is quite clear that you and I are never going to agree on this matter. I have never spoken down to people in my life. I will give my thoughts on a topic and I would never deny anyone the right to disagree with those thoughtss. I would defend everyones right to say what they think, but I would expect the same right to have my say even if they disagree with what I say. I have never stopped anyone from having their say on this or any thread I have participated in on this noticeboard. I will continue to defend peoples right to have their say

I wish you well for the future.

johnmcbride · Queen Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 94

Steve,

If you read my post, I actually say I want to hear everyones opinion, including yours. Please post your opinions, I have no problems with hearing your political views. I certainly do not a debate that is stifled to one view point, it would not be a debate then.

For me personally, who has more experience and knowledge of the English chess and political system. I actually want to hear more about the Scottish system and people's views on it. I certainly don't have any fixed views on independence, more devolved powers, less devolved powers, Scottish Lab and the SNP. I don't even vote for any one political party. Politically speaking, I only have really strong fixed views on one Party.

That is why I enjoyed the debate, until I was criticised for having a strong opinion on that Party, which they did not agree with. Instead of debating, they decided that attacking me was a better way of forcing their point of view. Also, I found it annoying to be asked to demonstrate a level of evidence on why I think something, that they themselves did not have to match. Obviously, bullying is something else that I have strong views on.

Steve, to avoid any misunderstanding, the comments in the paragraph above are not aimed at you.

JR · King Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 447 Location: Edinburgh

Stop bickering this is not the English Chess forum! Razz

Stuart Blyth · King Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 209

@ JR

You started it................

Mike Scott · King Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Edinburgh

John,
I am not saing you are not entitled to your views, far from it, I am simply pointing out what seems to be a contradiction in points you have made. Surely this part of a discussion? I am not looking to attack you personally, just questioning the reasons behind the statement you made.

Personally I think one of the problems with UK politics is that it is too much about 'them and us'. In these situations it becomes fashionable to 'hate' the otherside, to ascribe reasons to their actions that avoid the need to to accept that there may be logic and reason behind their decisions (I refer as an example to many discussions here, including DD's comments about CS decisions being arbitary). It is much easier to characterise your opponents as stupid/greedy/uncaring/bureaucratic or whatever. We all do it I think - I know I have.

So often when people get to know the people on the other side personally the penny drops and they realise the logic of the others positions, even if they do not agree with it. Look at N Ireland and the close working relationship between the DUP and SF based on the personal chemistry/respect between the leaders.

Having met a few politions I have always found, including Ron Brown, that whatever human failings they may have, there has been a passion to make a difference. I am not so sure about local poiticians but I have not meant any.

Finally I don't actually think it is relevant whether the person taking the decision cares or not is even relevant. Over caring for one particualar group may prevent the right decision being taken. I just don't know if this is the case. In running my company I had to make redundant staff I greatly cared for but it I took the decision anyway because it was the right decision.

I trust this will help keep the debate going.

Mike Scott · King Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Edinburgh

Just noticed your comment:-

johnmcbride · Queen Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 94

Selective quote, add the rest

"that they themselves did not have to match"

I really don't want to speak to you any further.

Mike Scott · King Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Edinburgh

Sorry you feel this way John.

You made a comment, I queried it and gave reasons why I queried it. The quote was not meant to be selective and my comment still applies to the whole. Why take the hump when some one questions something you post?

Which views of mine do you wish me to justify: I am quite happy to try and do so.

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