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Phil Thomas · King Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 758

Which is a very pleasing 50% score.

admin · Site Admin Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 1386

Hmm,

I seem to remember people commenting that we would have players coming back with no points at all. Good to see we are getting some excellent results and holding our own against players that are graded far above ours.

Makes you wonder if we have grading deflation Wink

Angus McDonald · King Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 162

Yes!

A very impressive result with only 6 round gone. These tournaments are very strong and many opponents are far stronger than their grade suggests and some ungraded players are even stronger still. For newcomers to score at all is a big achievement.

Phil Thomas · King Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 758

In the younger age groups there seems to be some severe grading inflation abroad.

Mainly generated in national age group champioships.

I don't know the answer but I perceive a lack of consistency entering the whole of the FIDE system.

In my view this Requires an increase to k values for younger players - is this happening ....does anyone know ??

Our FIDE rated juniors have gained around 50 points over the first 6 rounds ...a small change and perhaps evidence of consistency in grades for these older players.

Alex McFarlane · King Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 413

K factors were supposed to be increased in July but at the last minute, following much objection from players, this was 'postponed'. The current system is being run in tandem with the new system so that it can be seen what the effect of the change in k factor would be.

With the current k factor and the 1200 floor and 6 lists a year there can be little doubt that FIDE have introduced deflation into its system. Juniors will have a difficult time getting their rating to improve at a realistic rate unless huge numbers of games are played within one rating period.

Angus McDonald · King Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 162

I think that updating the FIDE rating list every 2 months might help people progress if they think they are undergraded. September's update is out and some nice additions in the Scottish juniors.

Alex McFarlane · King Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 413

The 2 months slows advancement. If an improving junior had 20 games in a 3 month period then the performance would be calculated on their initial low grade but if they played 10 in each period then the first ten would be based on the low grade but less credit would acrue to the second 10 as they would be based on the new higher grade, therefore the overall effect is less of an increase. (This is a simplification as it assumes opponents remain constant - but you get the idea.) This was why it was suggested that the k factor should be changed (and indeed should have been changed when FIDE moved to 4 lists per year).

Mike Scott · King Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Edinburgh

Another good day (so far)
Leora mated in 25 (she won), Captiva, Jamie, Fergus also Won
Jonny S., Ali & Zak Drew

Jacqui Thomas · King Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 340

Well done all you guys - I am so pleased you are getting the reults & hushing the critics - even though I envy you all for getting the sun, sea & sand whilst we continue to get rain, rain, rain

To improve - gain experience - get experience by being given opportunities & taking those opportunities

admin · Site Admin Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 1386

If I have added it up correctly, I make that 8 1/2 with more results to come in!

Excellent performance again Smile

Angus McDonald · King Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 162

Score is 12! which even I can work out is very impressive!

I admit to being very surprised by this fantastic score today for the team.

Well done to all.

Mike Scott · King Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Edinburgh

What makes it better is that Andrew's and Shivan's draws were 0.5 pts dropped rather than gained, as both were winning.

Its worth checking out the new FIDE grades - for example two of Jonny s. opponents have made significant gains - one was <1800 previously and now is >1900 and today's opponent went from 1690 to 1750 following one event recent event in which he played 8 or so games vs players >2056 and lost only 1.

Phil Thomas · King Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 758

Todays 12/19 came from 2 byes plus

Wins (SIX)

Fergus
Jamie
Clement
Leora
Captiva
Rhian

Draws (Eight)

Zak
Andrew
Shivan
Jonny
Ian
Daniel
Ali
Amy

Defeats only 3

All players have now scored at least 2 points

Phil Thomas · King Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 758

oops posted twice

Jacqui Thomas · King Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 340

Just in case anyone has missed it there is a link from the front page to Euro Youth 09 you will then go to a page with links to official website, individual players data & the most important bit

Scot Blog

Happy reading